When checking tire pressure and tread temperature upon re-entering the paddock we recorded tire pressure between 36 psi and 37 psi – right on target – and tread temperature was fairly even – averaging between 124 and 132 degrees F across the contact area. The braking distance was 1m longer, than the leader. Developed for the track, NEW Proxes R888R delivers supreme dry handling. by 1xian1 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:52 pm, Post Care to share.. both is equally sticky... but.. a050 can tahan heat longer... r888 get hot faster and start to lose grip.. Oooo isit? Toyo Tires has been the competition racing tire choice for many championship winning professionals and serious amateur racers for decades. Like any tire, push them too hard and they will let you know by producing an audible screech. Raising the tire pressure for very wet conditions will help to prevent hydroplaning by decreasing tire deflection, rounding out the shape of the tire to create a narrower contact patch, and pulling open the water channels in the tread for improved water evacuation. Very similar in price - maybe 70 or 80 bucks cheaper for the R888R. Keeping the momentum of the heavier Evo moving in the direction we wanted required less corrections and fewer mental resources, allowing me to focus more on other tasks such as driving line, braking, and my surroundings. It’s the perfect tire for someone looking for the best balance between “streetability” and bead punishing grip. Care to share.. Top. Toyo also recommends this tire for vehicles such as the BMW 3-series, BMW 4-series, Porsche 911, Porsche Cayman, Chevrolet Corvette and other welterweight vehicles of any drivetrain configuration. *A lot of people get track and drag strip confused. Prior to acquiring the new R888R shoes, our Evo X was running a well used set of the classic 100 treadwear Proxes RA1 competition tires. Yokohama AO48: Grippy when new, pricey, but heat cycle out badly, so grip goes away Toyo 888: Grippy WHEN properly set up, sensitive to overdriving, overheating, pressure, camber, heat cycle, humidity, wind, etc. Then we can start participating in sanctioned time attack events. Share Followers 0. Espescially when paired with 05R rear tires. 1:25.512…. Last place in Dry handling. The R888R has an optimal operating temperature between 160 degrees F and 220 degrees F. If you find yourself below the cooler end of this range, the tires will be noticeably less sticky and the compound itself will be too firm. So, with the 275/35ZR18 R888Rs mounted to a set of 9.5-inch wide wheels, we headed out to Streets for some testing with me behind the wheel. Yokohama Advan Neovo AD08R The R888s only come in 40 profile rather than the standard 45 which equates to a 25mm reduction … The … In competition the R888's … Toyo R888. Toyo R888R Bridgestone Re 71r Thanks I will be running 18x9 in 265/35 r18 09-26-2018 02:24 PM #2. We'll send you raw engine tech articles, news, features, and videos every week from TURNology. Bro and sister Any review of tis 2 semi stick tyre??? The R888R will improve traction with any vehicle but will remain more consistent when used on a vehicle heavy enough to keep the tread within the optimal temperature range like our Evo, but not too heavy as to overheat the tire. We knew our starting tire pressure would be too low, so we raised our cold pressure from 26 psi to 32 psi with a hot target pressure of 36 psi. Faster lap times and better performance are yours for the taking with the Toyo Proxes R888R. They are 6.5mm new and 140 tread wear and £64 on camskill compared to the r888 which are £108 (in 195 50 15). The new asymmetric tread design puts more rubber to the track and increases … “The credit goes to a new tread design and an improved contact patch that puts more rubber on the track. The evolution of the three 100 treadwear Toyo Proxes DOT-approved competition tires: the classic RA1 (left), R888 (center) and the new R888R (right). © 2020 Power Automedia. The car is currently stripped from the rear seats back through the trunk, in preparation for a roll cage, and features a fully built Garrett GTX3076R equipped 4B11T engine pushing out 538 horsepower and 446 lb-ft of torque at the wheels. track car use alot of a048 and a050 in jdm land.. Now days A048 is old model of A050 le..I think I will get A050 for my fit..lolxz. In 2017 experts of the German magazine Auto Bild have tested the Toyo R888 R at size 235/35 R19 and compared with 4 similar Trackday tires. Toyo r888 vs Yokohama AD08R - Shape question. The Yokohama Advan A052 is a Trackday and Competition Summer tyre designed to be fitted to Passenger Car. I use to drive with a set of Yokohama A08R and my feeling is that the Yoko used to behave much better in high temperatures than Toyo. You can usually find him racing his Mitsubishi Evo X in local time attack and road race events. Kyle is a track junkie with lots of seat time. Yokohama Promise. The R888Rs wide outer tread blocks greatly improve lateral grip over the RA1 and R888, and the water evacuation channels provide similar wet traction performance as the R888, but can’t quite grab a wet surface as well as the RA1. Higher entry and exit speeds were hit with more comfort, and lateral grip was confidence inspiring. Toyo r888 vs Yokohama AD08R - Shape question. by louis zhang » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:34 am, Post by pijulrs » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:04 pm. We try out the ultimate street sport tyre from the ADVAN range! Developed for the track, NEW Proxes R888R delivers supreme dry handling. The car is using Girodisc two-piece slotted brake rotors and Raybestos ST43 brake pads with stainless steel braided brake lines. However, me being me, I had to change the rears at 3500 miles as 2 track days and a few long distance trips had taken their toll. It’s definitely not a racing slick, but the latest evolution of the Proxes competition tire is impressive to say the least. Yokohama advan A050 compared to Toyo R888 Yokohama advan A050 compared to Toyo R888. When comparing the tread pattern of the RA1 to the R888R, it’s immediately obvious that some dry traction sacrifices were made on the RA1 in exchange for improved wet grip (at full tread depth anyway). I got a set of Yokohama ADVAN A052 for my '86 Carrera to take to the track. Developed for use in circuit, gymkhana events, the ADVAN A052 will come in 16 sizes, ranging from 16 inches to 18 inches. Proxes R888R. But they produced amazing grip throughout the entire day, handling the Evo’s excessive body roll with ease and producing lateral G-forces as high as 1.538, measured using our Vbox Performance Box on our fastest lap. Toyo’s team of engineers worked tirelessly to find any areas of improvement, where even a fraction of a second could be shaved off of a lap time. The Toyo Proxes R888R is a next generation race tire engineered for faster lap times and better dry handling. The highest G’s were experienced in turn 8, “the bowl,” and peaked at 1.538. In deed, Toyo … Negative camber improves lateral grip by moving the point where the rubber meets the road further towards the inside shoulder of the tire, increasing the outside shoulders contact with the road when exposed to high lateral loads and preventing sidewall rollover. Due to the severe weather and a lack of waterproof housings, we were unable to pull out our photography equipment and GoPros until later in the morning when the rain subsided. 30-day trial satisfaction guarantee. We were recently sent a set of Toyo’s newly released racing compound (R-comp) tires, the Proxes R888R, so we did what any track junkie would do — threw them on our Evo X time attack project car and headed out to our home test track Willow Springs International Raceway in Rosamond, California, for some clockwise torture testing on the 1.55-mile road course, Streets of Willow. Video: Scaring Mom In A Lotus Exige Cup 430 At Cadwell Park! Developed for the track, NEW Proxes R888R delivers supreme dry handling. By the third session of the day we had pressure dialed in to 34 psi hot, tire temps were between 182 and 194 degrees F, the track had fully dried, and the air temperature finally broke 50 degrees F; and that’s when these R-comps really started to shine. With enhanced steering feel and response, combined with higher stabilty on the throttle, Proxes R888R … I personally don’t like the sloppier feeling of a DR which is why I run an R compound road race … The Toyo R1R may be another choice to think about mate. By Walko, August 1, 2012 in Track Day Talk. “The Proxes R888R starts with the same advanced ‘GG‘ R-compound as the R888, providing the familiar quick warm up characteristics and progressive breakaway predictability that racers have come to love,” says Jay Jones of Toyo. Faster cornering, longer lasting and more consistent, Proxes R888R translates power into lap times. The majority of track-prepped cars take into account the specific needs of the tire when setting up suspension geometry, most important are camber and caster settings. What are your thoughts on which I should go with? Forum and Message Board for All Honda Lovers. We can’t wait to head back out to Streets in the near future to see what kind of lap times and telemetry data we achieve with the R888R’s once a proper set of coilovers and a roll cage are installed in our project Evo. “The Proxes R888R starts with the same advanced ‘GG‘ R-compound as the R888, providing the familiar quick warm up characteristics and progressive breakaway predictability that racers have come to love,” says Jay Jones of Toyo… * Competition Radial Tires have evolved from their predecessors, the race-winning Proxes R888. Post Search My Stuff. My Profile My Preferences My Mates. Toyo … 12 posts • Page 1 of 1. louis zhang 4000rpm Posts: 128 Joined: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:23 pm Location: woodland. Evolving from the Proxes R888, the Proxes R888R is Toyo's Racetrack & Autocross Only tire for driving enthusiasts participating in track days, road racing and high-performance driver education events. by louis zhang » Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:19 pm, Post Nitto NT05/R = Some crossover with R888R'S but really a Street/Strip tire. ADVAN A052 ® Warranty. I know that tire hasn't been tested much either yet, while the RE71R is the tire of choice in autocross street classes. The combination of high horsepower, the Evo’s love for oversteer, and the factory shocks/struts really put these tires through the ringer. Proxes R888R. “The Proxes R888R is an evolution of the race-winning Proxes R888, delivering even faster lap times and better dry handling,” says Toyo Tire’s website. Dry grip is very similar. While there was a significant reduction in traction when the track was wet, we were pleasantly surprised with how predictable the wet breakaway characteristics of the R888Rs were in combination with the Evo’s all-wheel drive. His best lap you ask? Dry grip and breakaway predictability has been improved leaps and bounds over the RA1 we used previously. 37,938 (Views) A+; A-Singapore - Now we all know … Granted, I need more tire in front (this is what I've always used), but i think these had better bite than the RE-11 that I had been using for years. The credit goes to a new tread design … The rain finally stopped around 10:30 a.m., giving way to an eventual 52 degree F high by the afternoon, but the strong winds persisted and the skies stayed mostly cloudy, so the track’s surface temperature only varied by roughly 30 degrees F throughout the day. From NASA and SCCA sanctioned wheel-to-wheel racing to hill climbs, Gymkhana, and even time attack and educational HPDEs (high performance driver education); serious road racing enthusiasts are very similar to professional race teams in that they are very meticulous about their choice of rubber. Toyo … Prior to becoming a freelance writer for the company, Kyle started his automotive performance career with Power Automedia as a shop technician, where he gleaned intimate knowledge of LS platforms and drag racing builds; then later joining the editorial team as the Staff Writer for EngineLabs And Turnology. by Silver » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:39 pm, Post We promise not to use your email address for anything but exclusive updates from the Power Automedia Network. Be sure to check back often to continue following our quest for all out power and grip in our Evo X. Don't drive in wet conditions. Today, Kyle is an experienced EFI calibrator; hot rod builder; and motorsports technician living in the San Jose area. With almost two hours since our last session, the tires settled back to their cold pressure, which we then lowered to 27 psi with a hot target of 32 psi. The optimal hot inflation pressure for the R888R is identical to the R888 and is found closer to what would be expected of most street tires. But keeping the vehicle in control required fewer mental resources than other tires we have used on the Evo previously. Our time attack Evolution X GSR project is in a bit of a transition at the moment. The new asymmetric tread design puts more rubber to the track and increases predictability in braking, acceleration and cornering. Standard Limited Warranty FOR REPLACEMENT PASSENGER TIRES, LIGHT TRUCK TIRES, AND … Yokohama recommends buyers also investigate the newer AD08, which it says offers track performance on par with the A048 but even better real-world durability and wet-weather performance. etc. Hi guys! If your number-one goal is to be #1, one of the best upgrades you can make is in upgrading its to the Toyo R888R. This Limited Warranty/Adjustment Policy provides for tire replacement under specified conditions. by Silver » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:40 pm, Post … This was definitely on the cool side but expected with the cool down time while pulling into the paddock plus the cold and wet track surface. Yokohama Promise. I online check A050 like better den R888..haha. by Silver » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:56 pm, Post I bought a set of Toyo R888's as advised by … If you push the tires over the 220 degree F mark you will notice a reduction in grip and predictability as the compound becomes too soft and begins to get greasy. R888R's cost more than $100 per tire compared to the NT555Rs and the R888R… Toyo R88R = Track day/HPDE/Auto-X tire. When we arrived at the track just before 7 a.m. we were greeted with an air temperature barely reaching 39 degrees F, with moderate rain and a strong wind chill pushing temperatures down to just above freezing. Keeping as much of the Evo’s momentum moving forward as possible was an intricate dance between throttle position and steering input, but the R888Rs still provided enough confidence inspiring lateral control for a best wet lap time of 1:34.7. Toyo R888R, and Hankook RS4 vs BFGoodrich Rival-S 1.5 March 20, 2017 David Whitener Editor's note- For more in depth conversation about David Whitener's background, and … That is, transitioning from a daily driver and weekend warrior to a dedicated track car. © 2017 Power Automedia. The only suspension modifications beyond the Swift springs being a Hotchkis 32 mm rear sway bar, Hotchkis rear endlinks, and Megan Racing rear camber arms. After putting the Toyo’s through their paces with a full day of mixed wet, cold and dry racing, it’s safe to say that this will continue to be the tire of choice for our time attack project Evo. “, It’s Official: The Iconic Toyota Supra Is Returning in, Ranger Road: Getting Veterans Into Endurance, Video: Scaring Mom In A Lotus Exige Cup 430 At Cadwell, Get The PerTronix Wiring Products You Need In Your, IDIDIT Performance’s New Steering Hubs Offer Easy Wheel, DEI Releases Motorcycle Leg Shields And Driver Heel, Street Legal Mario Kart! Video: This 1JZ-Swapped Lexus IS300 Is A Budget Track Beast, Camber: What Is It And How Can It Make You Faster, The Pros And Cons Of A Sequential Gearbox, The Appeal of Pushrod Suspension: Why and Why Not. I'm between a set of the new Toyo R888R tires in 295/30r19 size, or Bridgestone RE71R 285/35r19. Born and raised in Southern California, Kyle has been a gearhead ever since seeing his first Mitsubishi Evo VIII in 2003. With enhanced steering feel and response, combined with higher stabilty on the throttle, Proxes R888R allows track users to carry higher speed through corners for faster laps. 30-day trial satisfaction guarantee. by 1xian1 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:29 am, Post The Toyo Proxes R888R is a next generation race tire engineered for faster lap times and better dry handling. The Proxes R888R is an evolution of the race-winning Proxes R888, delivering even faster lap times and better dry handling,” says Toyo Tire’s website. After logging more than 1,000 miles on the Proxes R1R tires, we mounted a set of 215/45R17 Proxes R888R rubber to the D’Garage ND MX-5’s Yokohama Advan RZII wheels. The R888R’s new tread pattern creates a contact patch that gives the tire a noticeable bump in dry traction for improved braking distance and stability, acceleration, and cornering speed versus its older sibling. The smaller contact patches and more intricate water channels are able to evacuate more water efficiently, but also reduces the tire’s contact surface area, reducing overall dry grip and increasing the possibility of tread block squirm. With enhanced steering feel and response, combined with higher stabilty on the throttle, Proxes R888R allows track users to carry higher speed through corners for faster laps. The R888Rs handled the awkward weight transfer and unbalanced load produced while pushing the Evo through turn after turn without even batting an eye. Nitto NT05/R = Some crossover with R888R'S but really a Street/Strip tire. It’s Official North America, Say Hello To The Toyo Proxes R888R. Post by louis zhang » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:19 am Bro and sister Any review of tis 2 semi stick tyre??? With the track drying out and breaks in the clouds allowing the sun to intermittently warm up the tarmac, we immediately focused on readjusting tire pressure. The driver needs to have total confidence that whatever tire they put between their wheels and the tarmac will be able to handle the abuse seen over multiple hot laps without giving up grip, structural integrity or predictability in performance; otherwise known as precious seconds. Don't drive in wet conditions. The 100 treadwear R888R is far from this category. Definitely less than ideal conditions for a track event. Yokohama A050 vs TOYO R888. With enhanced steering feel and response, combined with higher stabilty on the throttle, Proxes R888R allows track users to carry higher speed through corners for faster laps. The Mickey’s and Nitto’s you mentioned with have a softer sidewall vs the R888R. Based on the tire’s wet performance, it seemed we hit the sweet spot for wet pressure for our setup right out of the gate. I have recently mounted a set of Toyo R888R on my v6 and am a bit confused and disappointed. Racers will also appreciate the predictable handling and how quickly the Proxes R888R reaches optimal operating temperature.”Just as the R888 was introduced as an improvement to the infamous Proxes RA1, the R888R further builds on this foundation, combing through data and driving impressions from professional racers from multiple racing series across the globe in an effort to continuously improve their products and shave seconds off of lap times. Toyo R888R, and Hankook RS4 vs BFGoodrich Rival-S 1.5 March 20, 2017 David Whitener Editor's note- For more in depth conversation about David Whitener's background, and to be blown away by how much this guy, and his wife/team test setup/tires/etc, tune into SlipAngle Podcast, episode 112. The Toyo R888R is the hotly anticipated successor to the incredibly popular R888 tyre so it has some very big boots to fill, and that is exactly what this all new tyre has done. Faster cornering, longer lasting and more consistent, Proxes R888R … What's New 3 12 24 72. Hot lap after hot lap I was blown away by the R888Rs performance. Toyo’s engineers designed this tire to operate at its best when hot pressure is set between 32 psi and 38 psi, where it will provide the highest grip, display crisp and direct steering response, and prevent unusual tire wear. But that didn’t stop us from adventuring out onto the track for an early morning wet session. The R888R is not … Yokohama A050 vs TOYO … Date Published: 28 Jul 2018. After logging more than 1,000 miles on the Proxes R1R tires, we mounted a set of 215/45R17 Proxes R888R rubber to the D’Garage ND MX-5’s Yokohama Advan RZII wheels. “The major improvements come from the more advanced casing design that utilizes a Rayon ‘Super-High’ turn up carcass with steel side plies, producing an aggressive asymmetric tread pattern with a strong sidewall, a wide center rib for increased steering response, and a large outer shoulder contact patches to further improve mid-corner lateral grip for faster lap times, improved consistency and more driver confidence.”. by prostcode » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:31 pm, Post The fitment over the 17- x 7.5-inch wheels was perfect, and fit under the fenders nicely with a mild lowering done with the help of the Öhlins Road & Track coilovers. All rights reserved. I haven't seen much comment here or on PH about the performance of the new Toyo R888R tyres. As far as suspension goes, at this point our Evo is still using the factory equipped KYB shocks with over 60,000 miles on them and a set of second-hand Swift Sport lowering springs with just as many, if not more miles; and absolutely no aero beyond what is offered from the factory. 12 posts • Page 1 of 1. louis zhang 4000rpm Posts: 128 Joined: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:23 pm Location: woodland. The Toyo Tires Proxes R888R D.O.T. The credit for improvements in acceleration, … 225 45-16 found in: Toyo Proxes R888R 225/45-16 XL Tire, Dunlop Direzza ZIII 225/45-16 Tire, Yokohama ADVAN A052 225/45-16 XL Tire, 245/45R16 Tire for.. proxes r888r safety advisory The tread compound is specifically designed to operate under racing conditions making it difficult to achieve optimum adhesion levels under normal street driving. Our time was bested by an older gentleman behind the wheel of a fully track prepped Evo VIII. 205/55-16 and 245/45-16 on 7" and 9" rims. If you spend too much time in this area the tarmac will begin chewing up large chunks of tread, greatly reducing the life and performance of the tire. Espescially when paired … - Yokohama Advan A050 (4) - Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08R (37) Pirelli Track and Competition DOT tyres: - Pirelli PZero Corsa System (11) - Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (2) - Pirelli P Zero Corsa Asimmetrico 2 (1) - Pirelli P Zero Trofeo (2) Toyo Track and Competition DOT tyres: - Toyo R888 R (14) - Toyo Proxes RS1 (0) - Toyo Proxes RA1 (3) - Toyo … When our first session started at 9:00 a.m., air temperature was still a fairly cold 44 degrees F and the rain was still heavy enough to create standing puddles and runoff streams at various locations around the track. We have all seen the marketing gimmicks employed by companies in just about every industry introducing a new product that is nothing more than the previous model with a different cover. ADVAN A052 ® Warranty. My Profile My Preferences My Mates. Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Yokohama recommends buyers also investigate the newer AD08, which it says offers track performance on par with the A048 but even better real-world durability and wet … Toyo R88R = Track day/HPDE/Auto-X tire. by louis zhang » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:12 am, Post Work great when all is perfect. Standard Limited Warranty FOR REPLACEMENT PASSENGER TIRES, LIGHT TRUCK TIRES, AND TEMPORARY SPARES. Like any performance tire, the Toyo Proxes R888R has ideal operating ranges for its various inputs to be able to achieve its ultimate performance such as tire temperature, hot tire pressure, and even camber and caster settings. by AlanZ » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:58 pm, Post Recommended … Yokohama A050 vs TOYO R888. Developed for the track, NEW Proxes R888R delivers supreme dry handling. Yokohama A050 vs TOYO R888. Toyo Proxes R888R DOT Competition Tires Features Built on the winning legacy of the Proxes R888, the R888R lays down all-out traction and highly responsive steering inputs. Ideal for road racing, track days and high performance driving schools, the Proxes R888 is the next-generation, street legal competition tire from Toyo Tires. I have ran a couple sets of 305 NT555R tires and am currently running 305 R888R's. 2-3rd place in Dry braking. Get AD08.... Good enough for street & occasional tracking activities... And not forgetting better wet day performance... r888 better grip then a048.daily drive also no problem....i bought 4pcs new set n used it already clock 20k km....sg-malaysia-phuket.1year already good for daily drive n partime sprinter. Dont drive in wet conditions. Search My Stuff. MSq5. I would say the R888R is a bit more rounded … We will safeguard your e-mail and only send content you request. 2017 Auto Bild Toyo Proxes R888-R test. Better or worse than the old R888s, than ZZRs etc - surprising no-one has had much to say on … The ADVAN A052 … Strictly tyres and rims talk. All rights reserved. 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A map of Streets of Willow displaying the max lateral G-forces and speed of our Evo X on our fastest lap at various points of interest. Unlike racing compound tires that reach optimal performance after heating up and softening the tread, your average set of street tires are made from a much harder compound (to improve tread life) and will not display a noticeable improvement. I would say the R888R is a bit more rounded than the AD08R. On a dry track with a 60 degree F asphalt temperature, we could feel the R888Rs getting progressively stickier with each corner of the warm up lap. After passing through the chicane and coming into Turn 10 of the first cold lap, the GG compound of the Proxes let us know it was already up to temperature by producing stomach churning grip as we trail braked and rotated into the 90 degree corner. Like all Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Proxes R888R … Yokohama ADVAN A052 - Review. Toyo’s team found that the best suspension settings for the R888R are found with 1 to 3 degrees of negative camber and “as much positive caster as possible.” These requirements make it blatantly obvious that the R888Rs were really designed for the road course and will wear very quickly if used on the street with these settings.
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